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You’re Probably Taking your Vitamin D Wrong, and it Could be Dangerous (& Ineffective)
Published 22 Oct 2022
Today I'm going over studies to tell you about an easy tweak you can make to prevent negative health consequences from supplementing vitamin D, and make it actually work. I'm not talking about basic stuff like dosing, or D2 vs D3, or taking it with fat sources--I'm talking about something I bet you've never heard of before. Press "show more" to see the study link(s)! - Support me via Gofundme: https://gofund.me/36c90c4d - Support me on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=5200705 - Help me start a podcast: https://gofund.me/343158db - Study links: https://veganmiche.blog/?p=6144 - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/veganmiche/ - Blog: https://veganmiche.blog/ - - - - - - - - - - - ------- LINKS FROM VIDEO ------ - - - - - - - - - - - - Magnesium citrate: https://amzn.to/3MSPkjZ - Magnesium glycinate: https://amzn.to/3DTx5qg - Vitamin D supplement: https://amzn.to/3DOT4yz (This is the one I used to take, it's just pricier--it's different from the one I recommended because the one I recommended is out of stock, and seems to have been reformulated to no longer be vegan.) - Vitamin D + K2 supplement: https://amzn.to/3Tj4roo - Apple pie porridge recipe: https://veganmiche.blog/2020/10/12/apple-pie-amaranth-porridge-recipe-vegan/ - Iron bars recipe: https://veganmiche.blog/2021/05/05/4-ingredient-iron-boosting-bars-vegan/
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The idea that you need to take vitamin K2 with vitamin D is not scientifically well supported. The evidence is indirect at best, so really people are just guessing at this point. There does not seem to be any evidence--even indirect--that it's needed for absorption of vitamin D.
You aren't going to get calcification from taking vitamin D unless you're megadosing vitamin D. Vitamin K2 won't fix the negative effects of megadosing.
The need for magnesium with D has much more direct, scientific evidence behind it.
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Since I'm getting a lot of questions surrounding physicians (doctors) on Youtube recommending vitamin D megadosing, here's some info on that. I don't watch those videos myself so I don't know what they're basing their recommendations off of, I'm just going to talk about my perspective/evidence I've seen.
I mention in the video that people should decide for themselves what D dose they want (and talk to their doctor about dosing), but I threw up the standard recommendation just in case anyone was curious. Ultimately there's no one size fits all dose because it depends on current D levels, and since the video focus is not on D dosing, I didn't get into that whole debate. But here is some information for those of you who are curious. Note that (responsible) doctors recommending huge doses of vitamin D would only do so for people who are actually deficient.
From peer-reviewed articles:
"Potential chronic toxicity would result from administration of doses above 4,000 IU/day for extended periods"
It is a known problem that doctors over-prescribe vitamin D: "Physicians treat patients with high doses of vitamin D for various disorders and in some instances, prescribe doses that exceed the suggested recommendations."
"patients should be advised of current dosing recommendations, in particular that 2000 IU/day should not be exceeded in the long term"
"Confusion, apathy, recurrent vomiting, abdominal pain, polyuria, polydipsia, and dehydration are the most often noted clinical symptoms of vitamin D toxicity"
"The IOM cited several association studies that suggest possible deleterious effects of serum 25(OH)D [vitamin D] concentrations above 50 ng/ml. Those effects include all-cause mortality, an incidence of certain cancers (breast, pancreatic, and prostate), and falls and fractures. "
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the only thing i had changed was taking vitamin d, so i started searching online about vitamin d and anxiety, and eventually i found some info talking about how supplemental vitamin d depletes magnesium stores, so then i looked up the symptoms of low magnesium, and among them, anxiety and constipation. Bingo!
i go to the store and buy magnesium citrate, i take 400mg as soon as i walk out of the store, and within 30 minutes i feel the anxiety start to dissipate. My bowel movements also returned to normal over the next few days.
and this is where another amazing thing happened, over the next weeks and months, my chronic cystic body acne slowly cleared. And eventually i had an acne free body for the first time in my adult life.
it wasn' t until 2022 that i knew the central role magnesium played in that. You see soon after starting the magnesium, i also started vitamin a, and i assumed vitamin a was the main player in the acne clearing. I think it was partly, but in concert with magnesium and vitamin d.
when covid started, i added some things to my vitamin regimen, including zinc.
soon, my body acne started coming back, for 2 years i took zinc daily, and my body acne got so bad i was bleeding all over my sheets every night. But everywhere you read online says that zinc improves acne, so i didn' t suspect it.
then i was lazy to refill some supplements, including zinc and magnesium, and the acne severity lessened greatly. So i started to suspect the zinc = acne link. I remembered other times in the previous 15 years when my body acne got so bad it bled, and remembered it may have aligned with taking zinc. So imy purchase history on iherb and found that i always purchased zinc prior to the breakouts occurring. Now i knew, for me, supplemental zinc = body acne.
so i continued vitamin a, and the body acne got much better, but never fully stopped occurring, it was no longer angry and bleeding, but it didn' t stop.
then i ordered magnesium again, and soon after taking it, the acne stopped. And now, some months into continuing magnesium, vitamin a and vitamin d, my body is completely clear again.
for 2 years i harmed myself daily by taking zinc, and didn' t realize another awesome effect magnesium has on me is clearing acne.
i didn' t mean to write such an essay nobody has time to read. But there you have it
i found that many of my patients fully recovered and/or showed significant improvement with supplements alone.
many of my patients not only come for mental health treatment, but frequently we end up addressing other related health conditions secondary to nutritional deficiencies
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informative, not a lot of filler, very much appreciated.
you interpret the studies, with an educated
you don' t know how nice this is. And your not selling anything - bonus)
so, i will be watching more vids of yours and taking notes! Seriously, because, that' s how i learn, but i also trust your take on the studies that you delve i to!
if you need to send the snow somewhere, we can use any extra here in the sierras in california!
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ive heard its best to take bit d on a morning and magnesium at night, is it ok to take them at separate times or do you have to take them together? Thank you.
loved your tip about cocoa powder. Good source of protein, too. 3
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can you recommend a magnesium supplement that we could use. Thanks.
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and this channel with miche is phenomenal! I am so grateful to her for doing all of the research & then sharing the information with us! This really, truly is a labor of love! Im a retired rn & one of the main focuses in my career was(amp; still is! To teach people how the body actually works & why what we do to our bodies ( what we eat, think, do or dont do) really does matter! And miche is presenting us with the magic of how beautifully everything works in unison to create this miraculous thing we call our bodies. And the tools to keep it all working properly! And if you think about it, it really is magic! Thank you miche!
thanks for the information, please explain to me what the difference is between vitamin d3 and magnesium vs vitamin d3 and vit k2, some ppl
so if they can test for lcls etc and it' s a common yearly thing, they should be able to do it with other things as well. And it' s not just about keeping you from being deficient, which is the bare minimum, but about getting you to the optimum. So a doctor saying you' re dosing to high (or low) on vitamin d or other things, without a test, might as well treat your problems with some old fashioned blood letting. Making decisions without testing testable things is not science
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wouldnt that mean the harvest would also be depleted in.
i' ll be running a basic metabolic panel on myself soon and i want to make sure i' m taking effective tests. 3
vit d also helps you absorb more calcium which can be good but can also calcify the arteries so vitk2 would also be recommended to help transport that extra calcium to the bones and teeth.
doctors prescribe up to 50kiu a week which is safe you could even double that for a certain amount of time but they never tell you about the magnesium depletion or extra calcium absorption which is wrong.
magnesium is really important and k2 for higher doses
to take vit k along with vit d something
about it preventing a calcium build up
in yourcorrect me if i' m wrong. 1